Thursday, 17 May 2012    HomeAbout UsContact Us     


Never see Ash'ariyyah in the same light, ever again! Aristotle of Stageira, Philo of Alexandria, Augustine of Hippo, the Sabeans of Harraan, the Mu'tazilites of Basrah and Baghdad and the Jahmite Ash'ari Heretics of Today Claiming Orthodoxy.
Read the first article, the second article, the third article, the fourth article, the fifth article.

Jahmite Intellectual Fraudsters Abu Bilal Maliki, Faqir, and Muhammad Fahmi on the Authorship of al-Ibanah by Abu al-Hasan al-Ash'ari - Part 10: Ibn Hazm Cites al-Ash'ari as Affirming Two Eyes and Declares Him a Mujassim
Filed under: Articles
Monday, September 27 2010 - by Asharis.Com
Key topics: Abu Bilal Maliki Faqir Muhammad Fahmi Al-Ibanah

Mail to a FriendPrinter friendly

Ibn Hazm (a Jahmite in Sifaat) Affirms al-Ash'ari Affirmed Two Eyes for Allaah and Ascribes tajsim to al-Ash'ari

In previous articles we saw the Pusillanimous Jahmites like Faqir running around with unchanged nappies after GF Haddad fed them the rotten leftovers of the Jahmites of antiquity, trying to use those who were affected by tajahhum and i'tizaal, such as Ibn Hazm, to denounce the belief of Ahl al al-Sunnah, and that of the early Kullabi Ash'aris such as al-Ash'ari, Ibn Mahdi al-Tabari, al-Baqillani, al-Bayhaqi, of affirmation of two eyes (aynaan) for Allaah the Exalted, or the genus of eye (ayn) - bilaa kayf (without 'how').

Here is what those Jahmites said:

Furthermore, in order to infer 'two eyes' from the plural form 'eyes' which has been mentioned in the divine texts one is likely to have drawn a comparison between Allah and His creation based on the senses. Imams Ibn Hazm [fn 8] , Ibn Aqil al-Hanbali and al-Imam Ibn al-Jawzi [fn 9] have harshly criticized those who affirm two eyes because there is no evidence for it, neither in the Qur'an nor the Sunna.

Alhamdulillah some quotes of Ibn Hazm have been brought to our attention by brother MA al-Ghuzayli that were in fact previously presented to these Jahmites by him, or at least to their guardian, GF Haddad, and it is befitting these quotes are included here in relation to the issue of al-Ibanah and the issue of the mention of eye in the singular and dual because it further exposes the stinking hypocrisy of contemporary Jahmites dishonouring the good name of Abu al-Hasan al-Ashari.

Ibn Hazm on al-Ash'ari and Two Eyes

To the right is the cover page for al-Fisal Fi al-Milal of Ibn Hazm (d. 456H) and it is the Darl al-Jayl (Beirut, 1996) print with tahqiq by Muhammad Ibrahim Nasr and Dr. Abd al-Rahman al-Umayrah.

As has been stated in the previous articles, Ibn Hazm was Jahmite in sifaat, and as for Ibn Aqil, he was upon I'tizal and as for Ibn al-Jawzi then he is mudtarib (mixed, confused) sometimes, affirming, sometimes denying. When the Jahmites come to you with certain quotations from these Scholars, you can sense that very objectionable smell (of hypocrisy).

So with that, consider these two citations from Ibn Hazm (2/322):

And I saw in the book of al-Ash'ari known as al-Mujiz: That Allah, the Exalted, when he said, "Verily you are under our eyes" (52:48) that He intended two eyes. And in summary, everyone who does not fear Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic in what He says, and does not feel ashamed of baatil (falsehood), will not care about what he says. And we have stated that there has not come a (single) text through the wording of an attribute from any angle whatsoever, because Allah the Exalted has informed us that knowledge, strength, speech and power, all of this is true, and it does not return back to anything besides Allah the Exalted at all, and with this do we strengthen (our view).

And also later (2/348)

And al-Ash'ari said: Indeed, the intent behind the saying of Allaah the Exalted: "Our Hands" is that its meaning is two hands, and that the mention of "Eyes" its meaning is "two eyes". And this is false (baatil) entering into the saying of the Mujassimah (Anthropomorphists). Rather we say: This is notification from Allah, the Mighty and Majestic, the mention of hand does not return to anything besides Himself, the Exalted, and we affirm that Allaah, the Exalted, - just as He said - has a hand (yad) and two hands (yadayn) and hands (aydin) and eye (ayn) and eyes (a'yun), just as He the Mighty and Majestic said, "In order that you may be brought up under my eye" and "Floating under our eyes". And it is not permissible for anyone to describe Allaah the Exalted that He has two eyes, because the text did not come with that, and we say: That which is intended by what we have mentioned is Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic, and not anything besides Him.

Now, after you have digested the above, let us go back to these hypocritical Jahmites and see what they said in their article on al-Ibaanah and the issue of two eyes:

Furthermore, in order to infer 'two eyes' from the plural form 'eyes' which has been mentioned in the divine texts one may have inadvertently drawn a comparison between Allah and His creation based on the senses. And perhaps for this reason, some non-Ash'ari scholars like the Dhahiri Imam Ibn Hazm and the Hanbalis, Imam Ibn Aqil and al-Imam Ibn al-Jawzi have rather harshly criticized those who affirm two eyes because there is no evidence for it, neither in the Qurưan nor the Sunna.

Ibn Hazm in al-Fisal fi al-Milal / 2:166 said (tr. Dr. GF Haddad):

Saying: 'He has two eyes,' is null and void and part of the belief of Anthropomorphists Allah Almighty and Exalted said 'eye' ('ayn) and 'eyes' (a'yunin) so it is not permissible for anyone to describe Him as possessing 'two eyes' because no text has reached us to that effect.

First we see the grandmaster of deception and distortion GF Haddad as the one who cited this quotation from Ibn Hazm. Notice how he did not mention that this very statement Ibn Hazm is criticizing, is from al-Ash'ari (!!).

Points to Note

From these quotes there are some points that must be noted:

  • Ibn Hazm was Jahmite in sifat, and he had problems with the affirmations of al-Ash'ari and Ahl al-Sunnah.

  • Thus when Pusillanimous Jahmites quote him on this matter (even if it is by clipping his words and deceiving the audience), they are in fact quoting his disparagement of al-Ash'ari, along with the generality of Ahl al-Sunnah who affirm two eyes. There are some scholars who in their writings adhere to the singular of eye (ayn), and this simply means they affirmed the genus of eye. Despite the Jahmites trying to use the position of these scholars, it is of no avail to them because those Scholars who only used the word in the singular (al-ayn) actually affirm it as an attribute of the essence [and not a metaphor], without takyif and tashbih and at the same time refute the ta'wil and ta'til of the Mu'tazilah and Jahmiyyah, who were followed in this by the later Ash'arites. So whatever the case, there is nothing for them in this at all.

  • Never, ever trust a Jahmite in citation, they are treacherous.

  • Affirmation from Ibn Hazm (d. 456H remember) that al-As'hari did in fact affirm two eyes, so we have al-Ibaanah, al-Mujiz, al-Maqaalaat as some of the works where al-Ash'ari affirms it. And Ibn Hazm is no more than three generations, but most likely two generations, from al-Ash'ari.

  • The complete irrelevance of the the claimed disparity as it relates to mention of eye in singular or dual. This becomes totally irrelevant by the above, as well as what has preceded in previous articles of citations from al-Juwaynee affirming that the earlier ones from the school affirmed two eyes and al-Baqillani affirming two eyes in his book al-Tamhid.



Link to this article:   Show: HTML LinkFull LinkShort Link
Related Articles:
Add a Comment (comments are currently moderated)
You must be registered and logged in to comment.


Don't Be Deceived By the Terminology of the Jahmiyyah!
(Introduction) (al-Jism) (al-'Arad) (Hulul al-Hawaadith) (al-Tarkib
)
Imaam adh-Dhahabi, Ibn Taymiyyah and the 'Naseehah Dhahabiyyah' (6)
Ibn Hajr al-Asqalani and the Ash'aris (5)
Regarding Qaadee Abu Bakr al-Baqillani (9)
Atomism and Hudooth ul-Ajsaam: The Core Foundation of the Jahmite Ash'ari Religion (12)
Sunni Answers To Devious Jahmee Doubts (10)
The Creed of the Early Ash'ari Scholars Differs From the Later (Jahmite) Ash'ari Scholars (15)
Imaams of the Later Ash'aris: Our Creed Would Lead the Common Folk to Atheism (2)
Ibn Kullaab (d. 240H): The True and Real Author of the Creed of the Earlier Ash'aris (7)
The Usool of the Ash'ariyyah Are the Usool of the Mu'tazilah (2)
Ash'ari Competition and Quiz Corner - Test Your Ash'ariyyah (5)
Top Tips To Become A Better Ash'ari (2)
The Jahmite Ash'aris on the Speech of Allah, the Qur'an and Kalam Nafsee (19)
Aristotelians Anonymous - Detox and Support Program (2)
The Authentication of al-Ibaanah (12)
The Kullabi Ashari Creed Publication Previews (10)
Aristotle, Philo Judaeus, Augustine, the Sabeans, the Mu'tazilites and the Ash'arites (5)
Destroying the Allegation of Tajsim and Tashbih Against Ahl al-Sunnah (10)
Latest Reports
The Creed of Abu Hasan al-Ash'aree in the Latter Part of His Life
Latest Articles
Fakhr al-Din al-Razi Annihilates and Demolishes the Foundation of the Jahmite Ash'ari Attacks Upon Ibn Taymiyyah and the Sunni Muslims: He Says All Factions Affirm 'Hawaadith' For Allaah Despite Denying It
Ibn Taymiyyah Compared With the Philosophers: Exposing Abu Adam al-Naruiji's Academic Fraud - Part 5: Ahl al-Sunnah, the Philosophers and Ahl al-Kalaam on Allaah's Actions and Origins of the Universe - Continued...
Ibn Taymiyyah Compared With the Philosophers: Exposing Abu Adam al-Naruiji's Academic Fraud - Part 4: Ahl al-Sunnah, the Philosophers and Ahl al-Kalaam on Allaah's Actions and Origins of the Universe
Ibn Taymiyyah Compared With the Philosophers: Exposing Abu Adam al-Naruiji's Academic Fraud - Part 3: The God of Aristotle and al-Naruiji Compared with the God of the Sunni Muslims
Ibn Taymiyyah Compared With the Philosophers: Exposing Abu Adam al-Naruiji's Academic Fraud - Part 2: Al-Naruiji's Two Fundamental (Aristotelian) Principles
Ibn Taymiyyah Compared With the Philosophers: Exposing Abu Adam al-Naruiji's Academic Fraud - Part 1: Contextual Background and History of Falsafah and Kalam
Al-Qadi Abd al-Wahhaab al-Malikee (d. 422H) Explains the Aqidah of Ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani on al-Uluww Bil-Dhaat
Barelwi Mullah Asrar Rashid Flees on His Heels and Commits Academic Fraud on His Audience, Unable to Answer the Rebuttal of His Kalam Creed He Took From the Hellenized Jews, Christians and Sabeans Through the Jahmiyyah and Mu'tazilah - Part 2
Barelwi Mullah Asrar Rashid Flees on His Heels and Commits Academic Fraud on His Audience, Unable to Answer the Rebuttal of His Kalam Creed He Took From the Hellenized Jews, Christians and Sabeans Through the Jahmiyyah and Mu'tazilah - Part 1
Analysis of the Statement of Asrar Rashid (Birmingham) Concerning the Creed of the Salaf - Part 6: The Jurisdiction of the Language of Kalaam
Search This Site

Most Popular
Destroying the Slander of Tajsim (Anthropomorphism) Against Ahl al-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah: Part 1 - Developing The Framework
The American Chestnut Tree, The Willow Tree, Jahm Bin Safwan, The Mu'tazilah, Ibn Kullaab and the Early and Later Ash'aris - An Illustration
Destroying the Slander of Tajsim (Anthropomorphism) Against Ahl al-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah: Part 3 - The Mu'attilah and Mujassimah Share the Same Base and Foundation For Their Ta'teel and Tajseem
Undercover Ash'aris: Understanding The Intellectual Fraud Needed by Today's Ash'aris To Prop Up and Defend their (Neo-Jahmite) Creed: Analysis of a Sample of Marifah Apologeticism Regarding Distinction Between the Attributes - Part 1
Ibn Taymiyyah Compared With the Philosophers: Exposing Abu Adam al-Naruiji's Academic Fraud - Part 5: Ahl al-Sunnah, the Philosophers and Ahl al-Kalaam on Allaah's Actions and Origins of the Universe - Continued...
Aristotle of Stageira, Philo of Alexandria, Augustine of Hippo, the Sabeans of Harraan, the Mu'tazilites of Basrah and Baghdad and the Jahmite Ash'ari Heretics of Today Claiming Orthodoxy- Part 1
The Philadelphian Jahmite Ash'ari Scandals Of 2009: Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah, Allaah's Nuzool and the Jahmee Invented Doubt Concerning Whether the Throne Becomes Unoccupied or Not
Destroying the Slander of Tajsim (Anthropomorphism) Against Ahl al-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah: Part 2 - Ahl al-Sunnah, Ibn Kullab, al-Ash'ari and the Early Kullabis, Ash'aris
A Historical Outline of the Deen Instituted by the Jahmites Subsequently Adopted by the Mu'tazilah, Ash'ariyyah and Maturidiyyah
Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah and the 'Naseehah Dhahabiyyah' Ascribed to Imaam adh-Dhahabee - Part 1

Tags
21st century kalam atomist abdullaah ibn al-mubaarak abdullah ali al-amin abdul-qadir al-jeelaanee abdul-qadir al-jilani abu abdullah bin hamid abu adam al-naruiji abu adam naruiji abu adam naruji abu al-abbas al-qalanisi abu al-hasan bin al-zaghuni abu al-hudhayl al-allaaf abu ali al-ahwazi abu bakr al-baqillani abu bakr al-ismaa'eelee abu bakr al-isma'ili abu bilal maliki abu fadl al-tamimi abu hamid al-ghazali abu hanifah abu hasan al-ash'ari abu isma'il al-harawi abu layth bin ataa abu mansur al-baghdadi abu ya'laa abul-hasan ibn mahdi at-tabari accident adh-dhahabee adh-dhahabi af'aal ikhtiyaariyyah ahl al-kalaam ahl al-kalam ahmad bin sinan al-waasitee ahmed cobra akhbaar ul-aahaad al-aamidee al-akhtal al-amidi al-'arad al-arsh al-as al-ash'aree al-ashari al-ash'ari al-baqillani al-bayhaqi al-bukhaaree al-dhahabi al-ghazali al-hadd al-hawaadith al-ibanah al-istiwaa al-jahm bin safwan al-jawhar al-fard al-jihah al-jism al-juwaynee al-juwayni al-kawtharee al-khateeb al-baghdaadee al-khatib al-baghdadi allaah's anger allaah's names allaah's pleasure al-milal wan-nihal al-muhasibi al-naruiji al-nawawee al-nawawi al-qadi abd al-wahhab al-maliki al-qadi abu ya'laa al-qalanisi al-qurtubee al-qurtubi al-qushayri al-razi al-shahrastani al-tabyin al-taftazani al-tarkib al-uluww al-uluwww al-wajh al-yad an-nadhr al-istidlaal an-nawawi anthropomorphism anthropomorphists aqeedah aqidah a'raad 'arad aristotelian metaphysics aristotelians anonymous aristotle ar-razi arsh asaas ut-taqdis asharees ash'arees ash'ari ash'ari burnout ash'ari clinic ashari scholars ash'ari scholars asharis ash'aris of philadelphia ash'arite ash'arites ash'ariyyah asmaa asraar rasheed asrar rasheed asrar rashid as-sanusi atheism atomism at-tabari at-taftazani at-tirmidhee attributes augustine aydin az-zilal baqillani barelwi bayaan talbees al-jahmiyyah bayjoori bayjuri belief science better ash'ari bi dhatihi bishr al-mareesi bucket theology competition corner composite day of arafah democritus detox divisible early asharis early ash'aris eesaa encompassment fake hanbalis fakhr al-din al-razi fakhr ud-din ar-razi falaasifah falsafah faqir fawqiyyah fi zilal il-qur'an forty hadith ghadab grave worship greek philosophers haadith haashiyah hanbalis harf harran hellenism hishaamiyyah hizb ut-tahrir hudooth hudooth ul-ajsaam hulool hulul al-hawadith ibn abi zayd al-qayrawani ibn asaakir ibn asakir ibn battah ibn darbas ibn fawrak ibn hajr ibn hajr al-asqalani ibn jareer at-tabari ibn jarir al-tabari ibn khuzaymah ibn kullaab ibn kullab ibn mahdi al-tabari ibn seena ibn sina ibn taymiyyah idol worship ihaatah ilm al-kalaam ilm al-kalam ilm ul-kalam imaam adh-dhahabi imaam ahmad imaam ahmad bin hanbal imaam ash-shaafi'ee imam malik inqisaam intercession intoxication istidlaal istiwaa ithbaat ittihaad ityaan jahm bin safwaan jahm bin safwan jahmee baleed jahmeespeak jahmi baleed jahmite jahmite ash'aris jahmites jahmiyyah jahmiyyah mu'tazilah jawhar jawharah jawharat ut-tawhid jihah jism jismiyyah kalaam kalaam nafsee kalaam nafsi kalam atomism kalam nafsi karraamiyyah kawthari khabar ul-waahid kullaabi ash'aris kullaabiyyah kullabi asharis lafdhiyyah later ash'aris liquor marifah metaphors metaphysics muhammad abduh muhammad anwar shah al-kashmiri muhammad fahmi muhammad sa'eed ramadan al-buti muhdath mujassimah murakkab mushabbihah mutafalsifah mutakallimoon mu'tazilah nadhr names naqd al-tadmuriyyah naruiji naseehah dhahabiyyah neo-hanbalis nihaayat ul-iqdaam nuh ha mim keller nuh keller nur uz zamaan institute nuzool personal development philadelphian ash'aris philadelphian jahmite ash'aris philadelphian jahmites philo philosophers plato pseudo-hanbalis qadi abdul-jabbar quraan quran qu'ran qur'an qur'an creationists ridhaa riyadh al-saaliheen rizqullah al-tamimi saalimiyyah sabeans saeed foudah sa'id foudah saint worship salafiyyah sawt sayyid qutb seeking ilm self awareness self help shafaa'ah shahrastaani shahrastani sifaat sifaat dhaatiyyah sifaat fi'liyyah sifat sifat fi'liyyah sifat khabariyyah substance sumaniyyah tabyin kadhib al-muftari tahreef tahrif taj al-din al-subki tajseem tajsim takaafu' al-adillah takyeef tamtheel tamthil taqi ad-din an-nabahani taqiuddin al-nabhani tarkeeb tashbeeh ta'teel ta'weel tawhid tawhid al-ibaadah tawhid al-uloohiyyah ta'wil the clinic the quran the throne theologians thomas aquinas throne top tips uluww undercover ash'aris voice wahhabi wahhabis yahyaa bin ammaar yusuf an-nabahani

Archives
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009


© Asharis.Com. All rights reserved.